Posted by Ray on April 23, 2010 under Economy, Main |
Quotes from The Great Depression: A Diary (click to buy)
. If I left the dates out you might think I am quoting a modern day book, but I am not. Only a fool thinks history does not repeat itself.
“It is also interesting to note that the effort to create credit by having the Federal Reserve Bank buy U.S. bonds in the open market has failed. Huge reservoirs of credit are available but banks won’t make loans because business is too uncertain. It seems to prove that when business starts moving credit will expand automatically but the artificial creation of credit will not expand business.” November 18, 1933
“The U.S. Treasury will face the task in a few weeks of paying out huge amount for bond interest and maturities. Where will the money come from – greenbacks (printing press)?” November 18, 1933
“Industry continues to boom and the entire public seems to be speculating in the stock market. Almost as bad as 1929. Last Friday was a record day of the year with 9 million shares changing hands. The whole recovery has been so spectacular as to almost be unbelievable. Because so much of it is based on inflation theories I have doubted its permanency. The next few months should tell the story. In the meantime lawyers and professional groups have failed so far to share in the boom.” July 3,1933 – sound familiar? The Depression was just getting going and the boom was because of FDR confiscating the gold and adjusting the price, effectively taking U.S. citizens off of the gold standard, but the U.S. still honored international settlements in gold.
“For the 12th consecutive day stocks have been drifting lower. Congress starts an investigation of short selling.” April 13, 1932
“During the boom years it became popular to buy real estate at inflated prices on a shoestring. This was done by encumbering it with a 1st, 2nd and 3rd mortgage. Second mortgage companies were formed to buy 2nd mortgages at a discount of 10% to 25% per year. It has proven to be a bad investment because at each sheriff sale the 2nd is wiped out. Most of these companies have frozen assets and seem to be heading for bankruptcies.” About June 5, 1931
“Magazines and newspapers are full of articles telling people to buy stocks, real estate, etc. at present bargain prices. They say that times are sure to get better and that many fortunes have been built this way. The trouble is that nobody has money.” July 30, 1931 – He further went on to say in 5/16/32; “This advice was premature. Here a year later prices are 1/3 of what they were in 1931.”
The point of this is that we may very well be in one of the peaks and valleys that were fairly common during the 1930’s. If you look at the economic policies of Hoover, which FDR took over and expanded, they are very similar to what we see the present government doing. As it turns out these policies actually extend the problems because banks cannot purge the troubled loans and assets, sound familiar, which created zombie banks. Eventually banks began to get states to pass laws restricting withdrawals, they did this with life insurance loans as well, and that still did not stop banks from failing. Bad mortgage debt is what caused the banks to fail, sound familiar?
The assets of depositors ended up frozen and shareholders were wiped out when a bank closed, they had double liability back then which means shareholders could lose more than they invest in bank stocks if the bank failed, they would get sued basically. Many of these banks did reopen thanks to Hoover’s Reconstruction Finance Corporation, but the savings accounts or passbooks were frozen. These passbooks were used as currency as people would sell them for pennies on the dollar, in hopes the institution would allow withdrawals at full face value. It is interesting to see how this al played out and what the average person was thinking during those times. I have to tell you, this book is all one needs to read about the Depression. I am sure Ben Bernanke learned a lot about the technical’s of the Depression, but unless he read this book he does not know squat.
The real killer, according to Benjamin, was the Smoot-Hawley Act, which placed high tariffs on imports to prevent dumping. Europe had devalued their currency so the tariff was put in place to make sure people bought American. It did not work and made things worse. Does this sound familiar with the rhetoric coming out of Washington about China’s currency value? The interesting thing is that, just like now, all countries were devaluing their currency in order to remain competitive and export in order to improve their own economies, it failed. When every country is devaluing and trying to export, as Benjamin points out, who is left to buy anything?
I will post more quotes from this book, but I urge everyone to read it. The similarity between the 1930’s and today is amazing to say the least. They tried to create inflation and failed, just like Ben is trying, and they tried the NRA, like the stimulus bill but they made the NRA much more strict and imposed higher pay and shorter hours so they had to hire. The NRA put unions in a position of power and several times Benjamin pointed out that labor troubles would come and they did. The current administration also wants more union jobs and activity, I fear that will fail to as unions strike often and are the primary reason the U.S. is not competitive in manufacturing, among other reasons.
History repeats itself and if we forget that basic rule we will always be doomed to repeat it. People who claim this is nothing like the 1930’s are insane. Sure, it is not as severe, maybe it will be if we relapse, but we are showing many of the same symptoms as were present in 1931, 1932 and 1933. Even the market action is somewhat similar. The one difference I foresee in the future is inflation, which only materialized in the 1930’s through price controls and increasing the price of gold, but overall inflation was very tame in the Depression as there was no money velocity, again, sound familiar?
We are slightly more creative in 2010 so I expect money velocity or a full blown currency crisis in the near future. In 1933 we really could not destroy our currency because of the gold standard, we did float the dollar though, but in today’s world we have nothing backing our money so it could really go to zero. It’s scary if you think about it.

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I am not a fan of the current administration, I think most people know this by now and no I am not a racist or anti-government, but the action lately has just gone over the top of prudent governance. Joe Biden, at a fund raising event, said that the economy will be adding 500,000 jobs a month in the near future. Joe, whatever you are smoking, please pass it because you are feeling no pain and I could use that for a little while.
The notion that this economy will create 500K jobs a month in the “next few months” is absurd and irresponsible. How in the world will this happen? We are still seeing 450K+ a week in initial claims which shows that employers are still laying people off. The work week is still well below 40 hours, coming in at a little over 33 hours a week, and wages are starting to deflate. If this economy was going to create 500K jobs in the next few months we would not be seeing what we are seeing. I understand this administration is under tremendous pressure to boost employment, but there is a difference between giving people hope and flat out lying, Joe is doing the latter.
I suspect he made this statement because census hiring will kick into high gear for April and with the passage of the health care bill the government will begin hiring for the new agencies being created. However, those jobs are not “real” jobs, yes they pay people and they do work, but they are not private sector jobs which actually create products or services. Government jobs create nothing and are actually a drain on the citizens of the country as the salaries for these positions must be paid for by some type of tax or fee which sucks capital out of the economy.
Clearly Joe was being Joe when he made that statement because, as usual, it was reckless and inaccurate, like most of the things Mr. This is a Big F****** Deal says. I see a trend with this administration that is eerily like that of FDR’s administration, please read The Great Depression: A Diary by Benjamin Roth to see the similarities, which would not stand for criticism of any kind. I get many do not like the Tea Party because there are a few nut jobs in the crowd, as with any crowed, but look at what they are doing to them. They branded them anti-government, racist and dumb which is largely unfounded accusations and I seem to recall liberal rallies which were supported by the Democrats as citizens exercising their right to free speech. However, when the speech is criticizing the Democrats, well, they can’t have that now, can they?
Regardless, let’s take a look at another report about the health care bill. A new report from the Associated Press today says the bill will cost far more than what was projected by the CBO and by the Democrats, are you really surprised by this? The bill will cost $311B between 2010 – 2019 and, which the CBO already admitted, will raise premiums for everyone. However, there is way more cost than most people think about, let’s take a look at some back of the envelope costs.
The bill mandates that everyone has to have coverage or face a fine, but because of this mandate the government will offer generous subsidies up to individuals/couples making $88K a year. Who knows if these subsidies get bigger or smaller in the future, but we will use what we know for sure. The good news is that the poor will get “free” coverage and as your income increases so will the amount you will have to pay. The range of premiums owed is based on a sliding scale and will cost you between, assuming you make less than $88K, 3% – 9.5% of your income.
That is a heavy burden on a family even making $88K a year and for the kind of poor, making, say, $50K a year, you are taking a big chunk of a person’s income which they have no choice but to pay. On $50K a year they will end up paying about $1,500 a year for health insurance, $125/month, that is a lot of money considering the bi-weekly pay is about $1,200 for someone in that income range. This means that money will impact their standard of living perhaps preventing them from even owning a home. At the very least this bill will pull billions out of the economy every year, that is not what we need right now.
If we look at the 32M this bill will insure times the estimated about they will have to pay, the number gets pretty ugly. If we assume the average person will pay $3,500 a year in premiums, who much money will that take out of the economy? The answer, $112,000,000,000, almost 1% of the current GDP. If we look at the average subsidy you will receive, which the government, i.e. other taxpayers, will provide people, how much would that be? The answer, $288,000,000,000 (32M x $9,500 – average subsidy by my calculations based on current insurance premiums on an annual basis). I am not sure how Congress came up with the cost of this bill being only $930B or so, but I do not want whoever crunched those numbers to do my taxes.
The point I am making is that this bill which is being bragged about by the Democrats is not good for business and not good for the middle class. Let’s not forget that the real middle class, couple, will more than likely make more than $88K per year which means no subsidy at all for them. Paying for a $12K or $1,000 a month for a health insurance policy is a lot to ask. Most people do not realize that making $100K in today’s world is not that much money, after taxes, mortgage payments, property taxes, energy costs, kids and so forth.
The worst part is that the GAO has estimated that by 2020 93 cents on every dollar collected by the government through taxes will have to go towards entitlement programs. That means only a small portion will be available to go towards everything else we have, you know, like debt servicing costs. Does anyone think taxes on everyone are not going to go higher? I know, they promised that only the rich will pay higher taxes, news flash, politicians lie, shocking. If we do not have a VAT, value added tax, it will have to come from higher income taxes and, more than likely, we will end up with a VAT AND income taxes which would be horrible. I am not even going to go into the tax base they used to calculate this, but I will say it is absurd.
No one did not want to reform health care we just wanted it done right. I think people would have been for the stimulus if it was done right. The problem is that these programs were not done right and will cost us all dearly in the future. This is not about party lines, the Republicans stink as well, this is about the countries very survival. To put this into perspective, Obama just said I walked into a bad situation with trillion dollar deficits and $8T in national debt. Well, it is Obama’s second year in office and the national debt is now reaching $13T and somewhere along the way we are being told that 2 wrongs make a right, because bush did it first.
This is unsustainable and I mean any annual deficit is now unsustainable. Adding even $500B a year is irresponsible and will have catastrophic consequences let alone adding trillions more to this figure. People say we have to run deficits because we have trade deficits. What they don’t tell you is our trade deficits are not that big and we have enough debt outstanding that would cover our trade deficits for a very, very long time. I believe we are past the point of no return and freezing spending after increasing the budgets of government agencies by 20% is doing nothing to reduce our long-term debt obligations. Just like we are seeing in Greece now, this will all come to ahead very soon and who will bail us out?
In the meantime, if you actually believe we will have 500K a month job growth in the next few months while initial claims come in at 450K per week, pass me whatever you’re smoking.

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